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This Audio CD Music item from Harmonia Mundi Fr. was reviewed on 6-Jun-2008.

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Related topics: Prld & Fugue in D, BWV 532. Prld & Fugue in G, BWV 550. Prld & Fugue in e, BWV 533. Prld & Fugue in C, BWV 531. Prld & Fugue in g, BWV 535. Prld & Fugue in c, BWV 549. Prld & Fugue in f, BWV 534. Prld & Fugue in d, BWV 539. Fugue in g, BWV 577. Fugue in c, BWV 575. Fugue in g, BWV 578. Fugue in b, BWV 579. Toccata & Fugue in d, BWV 565. Toccata & Fugue in E, BWV 566. Toccata & Fugue in C, BWV 564. Toccata & Fugue in F, BWV 540. Toccata & Fugue in d, BWV 538. Partita in c, BWV 767: O Gott, Du Frommer Gott. Partita in f, BWV 766: Christ, Der Du Bist Der Helle Tag. Partita in g, BWV 768: Sei Gegrusset Jesu Gutig. Pastorale in f, BWV 590. Canzone in d, BWV 588. Allabreve in D, BWV 586. Das Orgelbuchlein, Advent, 1. Nun Komm´ Der Heiden Heiland, BWV 599. Das Orgelbuchlein, Advent, 2. Gottes Sohn Ist Kommen, BWV 600. Das Orgelbuchlein, Advent, 3. Herr Christ, Der Ein´ge Gottes Sohn, BWV 601. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 4. Lob Sei Dem Allmachtigen Gott, BWV 602. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 5. Puer Natus Est In Bethlehem, BWV 603. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 6. Gelobet Seist Du Jesu Christ, BWV 604. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 7. Der Tag, Der Ist So Freudenreich, BWV 605. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 8. Vom Himmel Hoch, Da Komm´ Ich Her, BWV 606. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 9. Vom Himmel Kam Der Engel Schar, BWV 607. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 10. In Dulci Jubilo, BWV 608. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 11. Lobt Gott, Ihr Christen, Allzugleich, BWV 609. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 12. Jesu, Meine Freude, BWV 610. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 13. Christum Wir Sollen Loben Schon, BWV 611. Das Orgelbuchlein, Christmas, 14. Wir Christenleut´, BWV 612. Das Orgelbuchlein, New Year, 15. Helft Mir Gottes Gute Preisen, BWV 613. Das Orgelbuchlein, New Year, 16. Das Alte Jahr Vergangen Ist, BWV 614. Das Orgelbuchlein, New Year, 17. In Dir Ist Freude, BWV 615. Das Orgelbuchlein, Song Of Simeon, 18. Mit´ Fried´ Und Freud´ Fahr´ Fahr´ Ich Dahin, BWV 616. Das Orgelbuchlein, Song Of Simeon, 19. Herr Gott, Nun Schleuss Den Himmel Auf, BWV 617. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 20. O Lamm Gottes, Unschuldig, BWV 618. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 21. Christe, Du Lamm Gottes, BWV 619. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 22. Christus, Der Uns Selig Macht, BWV 620. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 23. Da Jesu An Dem Kreuze Stund, BWV 621. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 24. O Mensch, Bewein´ Dein Sunde Gross, BWV 622. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 25. Wir Danken Dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 623. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 26. Hilf Gott, Dass Mir´s Gelinge, BWV 624. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 27. Christ Lag In Todesbanden, BWV 625. Das Orgelbuchlein, Passion, 28. Jesus Christus, Unser Heiland, BWV 626. Das Orgelbuchlein, Easter, 29. Christ Is Erstanden, BWV 627. Das Orgelbuchlein, Easter, 30. Erstanden Ist Der Heil´ge Christ, BWV 628. Das Orgelbuchlein, Easter, 31. Erschienen Ist Der Herrliche Tag, BWV 629. Das Orgelbuchlein, Easter, 32. Heut´ Triumphieret Gottes Sohn, BWV 630. Das Orgelbuchlein, Whitsuntide, 33. Komm, Gott Schoper, Heilger Geist, BWV 631. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 34. Herr Jesu Christ, Dich Zu Uns Wend´ BWV 632. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 35. Liebster Jesu, Wir Sind Hier, BWV 633. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 36. Dies´ Sind Die Heil´gen Zehn Gebot, BWV 634. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 37. Vater Unser Im Himmelreich, BWV 635. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 38. Durch Adams Fall Ist Ganz Verderbt, BWV 636. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 39. Es Ist Das Heil Uns Kommen Her, BWV 637. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 40. Ich Ruf Zu Dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 638. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 41. In Dich Hab´ Ich Gehoffet, Herr, BWV 639. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 42. Wenn Wir In Hochsten Noten Sein, BWV 640. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 43. Wer Nur Den Lieben Gott Lasst Walten, BWV 641. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 44. Alle Menshen Mussen Sterben, BWV 642. Das Orgelbuchlein, Glaubenslieder, 45. Ach Wie Nichtig, Ach Wie Fluchtig, BWV 643. Ein Feste Burg Ist Unser Gott, BWV 720. Nun Freut Euch, Lieben Christen G´mein, BWV 734. An Wasserflussen Babylon, BWV 653b. Vater Unser Im Himmelreich, BWV 737. Valet Will Ich Dir Geben, BWV 736. Herzlich Tut Mich Verlangen, BWV 727. Passacaille Et Fugue in c, BWV 582. Fant Et Fugue in g, BWV 542. Fant Et Fugue in c, BWV 537. Fant in g, BWV 572. Fant in c, BWV 562. Fugette: Herr Christ, Der Ein´ge Gottes Sohn BWV 698. Fugette: Gelobet Seist Du, Jesu Christ, BWV 697. Fugette: Nun Komm´ Der Heiden Heiland, BWV 699. Fugette: Lob Sei Dem Allmachtigen Gott, BWV 704. Fugette: Vom Himmel Hoch Da Komm´ Ich Her, BWV 701. Fugette: Christum Wir Sollen Loben Schon, BWV 696. Fugette: Gottes Sohn Ist Kommen, BWV 703. Fuga Sopra Il Magnificat, BWV 733. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Komm, Heiliger Geist, Herre Gott, BWV 651. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: O Lamm Gottes, Unschuldig, BWV 656. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Herr Jesu Christ, Dich Zu Uns Wend´ BWV 655. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Schmucke Dich, O Liebe Seele, BWV 654. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: An Wasserflussen Babylon, BWV 653. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Von Gott Will Ich Nicht Lassen, BWV 658. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Nun Danket Alle Gott, BWV 657. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Komm, Heiliger Geist, Herre Gott, BWV 652. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Nun Komm, Der Heiden Heiland, BWV 659. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Nun Komm, Der Heiden Heiland, BWV 660. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Nun Komm, Der Heiden Heiland, BWV 661. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Allein Got In Der Hoh´ Sei Ehr´, BWv 662. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Allein Gott In Der Hoh´ Sei Ehr´, BWV 663. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Allein Gott In Der Hoh´ Sei Ehr´, BWV 664. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Jesus Christus, Unser Heiland, BWV 665. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Jesus Christus, Unser Heiland, BWV 666. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Komm, Gott, Schopfer, Heiliger Geist, BWV 667. The Leipzig Chorale Prlds: Vor Deinen Thron Tret´ Ich Hiermit, BWV 668. Herr Jesu Christ, Dich Zu Uns Wend´, BWV 709. Liebster Jesu, Wir Sind Hier, BWV 706. Wer Nur Den Lieben Gott Lasst Walten, BWV 690. Wer Nur Den Lieben Gott Lasst Walten, BWV 691. Liebster Jesu, Wir Sind Hier, BWV 731. Vom Himmel Hoch Da Komm´ Ich Her, BWV 738. Ach Gott Und Herr, BWV 714. Allein Gott In Der Hoh´ Sei Ehr´, BWV 711. Wir Christenleut´, BWV 740. Christ Lag In Todesbanden (Fant), BWV 718. Christ Lag In Todesbanden (Trio), BWV 695. Allein Gott In Der Hoh´ Sei Ehr´, BWV 717. Jesu Meine Freude (Fant Sopra), BWV 713. In Dich Hab´ Ich Gehoffet, Herr, BWV 712. Wir Glauben All An Einen Gott, BWV 740. Trio Son No.1 in E flat, BWV 525: Tempo Giusto. Trio Son No.1 in E flat, BWV 525: Adagio. Trio Son No.1 in E flat, BWV 525: Allegro. Trio Son No.2 in c, BWV 526: Vivace. Trio Son No.2 in c, BWV 526: Largo. Trio Son No.2 in c, BWV 526: Allegro. Trio Son No.3 in d, BWV 527: Andante. Trio Son No.3 in d, BWV 527: Adagio E Dolce. Trio Son No.3 in d, BWV 527: Vivace. Trio Son No.4 in e, BWV 528: Adagio. Vivace. Trio Son No.4 in e, BWV 528: Allegro. Trio Son No.4 in e, BWV 528: Un Poco Allegro. Trio Son No.5 in C, BWV 529: Allegro. Trio Son No.5 in C, BWV 529: Largo. Trio Son No.5 in C, BWV 529: Allegro. Trio Son No.6 in G, BWV 530: Vivace. Trio Son No.6 in G, BWV 530: Lento. Trio Son No.6 in G, BWV 530: Allegro. Trio in d, BWV 583. Deutsche Orgelmesse: Prld in E flat, BWV 552a. Deutsche Orgelmesse: Kyrie: Kyrie, Gott Vater In Ewigkeit, BWV 672 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Kyrie: Christe, Aller Welt Trost, BWV 673 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Kyrie: Kyrie, Gott Heiliger Geist, BWV 674 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Kyrie: Kyrie, Gott Vater In Ewigkeit, BWV 669 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Kyrie: Christe, Aller Welt Trost, BWV 670 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Kyrie: Kyrie, Gott Heiliger Geist, BWV 671 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Gloria: Allein Gott In Der Hoh´ Sei Ehr´, BWv 675 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Gloria: Allein Gott In Der Hoh´ Sei Ehr´, BWV 676 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Gloria: Allein Gott In Der Hoh´ Sei Ehr´, BWV 677 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: The Ten Commandments: Dies´ Sind Heil´gen Zehn Gebot, BWV 679 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: The Ten Commandments: Dies´ Sind Heil´gen Zehn Gebot, BWV 678 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Credo: Wir Glauben All´ An Einen Gott, BWV 681 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Credo: Wir Glauben All´ An Einen Gott, BWV 680 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: The Lord´s Prayer: Vater Unser Im Himmelreich, BWV 683 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: The Lord´s Prayer: Vater Unser Im Himmelreich, BWV 682 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: The Baptism: Christ, Unser Herr, Zum Jordan Kam, BWV 685 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: The Baptism: Christ, Unser Herr, Zum Jordan Kam, BWV 684 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Penitence: Aus Tiefer Not Schrei´ Ich Zu Dir, BWV 687 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Penitence: Aus Tiefer Not Schrei´ Ich Zu Dir, BWV 686 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Communion: Jesus Christus Unser Heiland, BWV 689 (Petite Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Communion: Jesus Christus Unser Heiland, BWV 688 (Grande Version). Deutsche Orgelmesse: Fugue in E flat, BWV 552b. Wachet Auf, Ruft Uns Die Stimme, BWV 645. Wo Soll Ich Fliehen, BWV 646. Wer Nur Den Lieben Gott Lasst Walten, BWV 647. Meine Seele Erhebt Den Herrn, BWV 648. Ach Bleib´ Bei Uns, BWV 649. Kommst Du Nun, Jesu, Von Himmel Herunter, BWV 650. Var Canoniques, On Christmas Chorale, ´Vom Himmel Hoch´, BWV 769. Prld And Fugue in a, BWV 543. Prld And Fugue in e, BWV 548. Prld And Fugue in C, BWV 547. Prld And Fugue in G, BWV 541. Prld And Fugue in c, BWV 546. Prld And Fugue in C, BWV 545. Prld And Fugue in b, BWV 544. Prld And Fugue in A, BWV 536. ( B ). Classical. Styles. Music. Fugues. Forms & Genres. Classical. Styles. Music. Preludes.

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1) Audio CD Music Bach: L'Ouvre d'orgue (The Organ Works) /Rogg by Harmonia Mundi Fr.. For those unfamiliar with Lionel Rogg´s superlative Bach cycle done in Zürich in the early ´sixties, this set may well prove entirely satisfactory; the reviews here suggest it does and I would not wish my opinions to spoil others´ enjoyment of these recordings but I´m bound to say I´m disappointed that this present set is nothing like the original.

The earlier recordings were made using the modern Metzler instrument in the Großmünster and were very widely acclaimed at the time; indeed, they were regarded as being closer to "definitive" than any other set then extant. I continue to regard these extraordinarily fine performances in the same light but playing my collection of very tired LPs has to be rationed. In my judgment the later offering is bland and uninspired, both in performance and choice of registrations - it conveys the impression that Lionel Rogg has "been there, done that" which, of course, he has but it doesn´t have to be so obvious. Quality of recording is a little inconsistent and never above average.

Furthermore, an instrument for this programme more appropriate than the organ at Arlesheim might have been chosen; the fact that it is a Silbermann is no guarantee of suitability in respect of Bach performances. This one is by Johann Silbermann, nephew of the great Gottfried Silbermann who built glorious instruments in the North German tradition; a tradition with which Bach´s writing indissolubly is joined but the works of brother Andreas Silbermann were couched in a markedly French idiom. His organs, generally, are very fine - the larger of his instruments in Freiburg Cathedral being a good example - but his sons who carried on the business continued in his strong Alsatian bias evident at Arlesheim. As is characteristic of so many Silbermann instruments, this one is lacking in the pedal division.

Sadly, there is no established "Bach organ" specification - we can only conjecture (and, I think, fairly accurately) what this might have been from the instruments of builders like Hildebrandt, Trost and Wender but regardless of speculation, the Arlesheim Silbermann is not even on the short list.

If this review seems a little sour, it is because I fail to understand why Rogg/Harmonia Mundi, after some forty five years of "hibernation", wasted an opportunity to transfer what was a brilliantly performed, superbly recorded and universally acclaimed product to CD. By comparison, the present offering is very mediocre and I no longer have it in my library.

Of the Bach recordings currently available, I would recommend those by Walcha, Fagius or Ritchie. These recordings, particularly the George Ritchie set which benefits from outstanding audio quality and instruments superbly suited to the task - just listen to the Paul Fritts at the Pacific Lutheran University to hear what I mean - are choices preferred to this Harmonia Mundi lack-lustre collection.
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2) Audio CD Music Bach: L'Ouvre d'orgue (The Organ Works) /Rogg by Harmonia Mundi Fr.. This is the first, and best, recordings of Johann Sebastian Bach Organ Works I have heard. Lionel Rogg´s performances are smooth and flawless. I usually feel I have not heard an organ work by Bach until I have heard Rogg´s recording on the Silbermann organ at Arlesheim in 1970, which this boxed set presents. The Toccatas and Fugues are the highlight; especially the fabulous Toccata in F Major. I have played this piece by this organist more than any recording in my life. His rendition of the usually least-admired Toccata in E made me admire it fully for the first time. Usually his performances are the best and definitive versions of each piece. The dramatic feel, tempo and phrasing are the best I´ve heard. Occasionally other versions of the smaller chorales are more engaging than Rogg´s. The Arlesheim organ is also rather small, although powerful; and the sound of the organ doesn´t vary too much from disc to disc through the 12 CDs. I don´t know why one reviewer complained about the "sound" however; it is fabulous and all notes are extraordinariily clear on all pieces. Also, it´s not a complete set of Bach organ works, but that does not make it any less essential to anyone who wants to own recordings of the Master´s organ works.

NOT Johann Michael Bach! How did that get there?¤

3) Audio CD Music Bach: L'Ouvre d'orgue (The Organ Works) /Rogg by Harmonia Mundi Fr.. This is thrilling music, well played on an organ representative of Bach´s period. The harmonic structure of the pedal notes is wonderful and this recording seems to sort them out just fine. Its hard to believe that this organ is only 40+ ranks and was originally pumped by human power.

The "Passacaglia" is the finest I have heard, and I do not hear any noticable distortion on the low pedal notes. In fact this recording from the early seventies is more listenable than many newer digital recordings made recently. Also, I listen to this music at levels comparable to those experienced in the church environment.

I am completely satisfied with this boxed set and listen to it often. I advise anyone buy this set based on artistry and musical content and not worry about the sound. It´s OK.

I do not understand why this set does not come up on Amazon´s Bach Organ works listing. I had to find it under Lionel Rogg.

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4) Audio CD Music Bach: L'Ouvre d'orgue (The Organ Works) /Rogg by Harmonia Mundi Fr.. I heard raves about the Rogg set, so I bought it. Am I glad I did? I guess so. Long story short, there´s not much "bounce" to his playing. Is it the organ? I don´t know. Sure Kevin Bowyer is inconsistent, but I dare you to find a better "Wedge". All in all, a fine, workmanlike set of organ works by The Master. 12 CDs in paper sleeves with no dubious works.¤

5) Audio CD Music Bach: L'Ouvre d'orgue (The Organ Works) /Rogg by Harmonia Mundi Fr.. Let´s face it: it´s not easy to comprehend twelve hours of some of the finest organ music ever composed. The first impressive feature of this recording is the consistently high quality of Lionel Rogg´s performance: he chooses his interpretations with great care, insight, even humour, when the occasion demands: all realised on a magnificent, restored 18th-century organ from the legendary Silbermann family. Surely the highlight of the whole set is Rogg´s performance of the Passacaglia and Fugue: chilling, grand, extremely expressive, but never overdone. To the smaller Orgelbuchlein pieces he brings just the right touch. And, of course, the big preludes, toccatas, partitas, &c. receive careful readings, too.

The second impressive feature is the price: how Harmonia Mundi gets away with offering a huge set at this low price is beyond me (except, perhaps, that the recordings are rather dated--see below.)

One note of caution: the selection is *extremely* conservative in deciding on canonical Bach works. Anything that is at all doubtful is left off, including some old favourites like the "Kleines Harmonisches Labyrinth" (BWV 591), once attributed to JSB. I understand why HM did this, of course--at 12 discs the set is already top-heavy--but a few of these pieces are well worth hearing alongside the canonical works, and some may actually be genuine Bach works.

The only thing that stops me from giving this the full five stars is the uneven sound quality: these recordings first appeared in 1970, and they show their limitations. At times, especially during the fugues, the voices get muddied, particularly in the pedal; there is even some distortion at the very low end (such as the low C in the Passacaglia theme). However, even with the limited sound, I have to remind myself that one can´t purchase a complete set of Bach´s organ works in such wonderful performances anywhere else as this astonishingly low price--by all means the Rogg recordings are well worth having.¤

Page Updated: Robert N. Goolsby, 4-Jul-2008, 093046077228, AAB-8


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